
As the rainbow decorations all over the bar made clear, it was indeed a gay bar. Kelli’s on Merrick Road in Wantagh has always been ‘friendly’ to gay’s men or women but mostly women.
I was asked by a super hot young lady I know (we’ll call her Karri) to meet her there for a drink or two before we headed to the ferry so she can attend the wedding of her two friends Alex and Alise (who were at the bar) on Fire Island.
With all the hot, pretty women, it was not uncomfortable for me, being straight in a gay bar.
I didn’t really care because the woman I was with was hot and she has been decidedly ‘Pansexual’ for most of her adult life. (Pansexual is term that characterizes Karri) Karri wears a silver chain with a symbol in onyx and silver around her neck that begs me to ask the question…but I’ll save that for later. Alex sat next to me and asked what I thought about the gay marriage law. “Well, I really don’t want to get into a political discussion at the risk of alienating or angering anyone, I just want to drink.”

Alise said, It’s alright RJ, Karri told me about your friend in the ministry and given that your active in religious organizations I’d like to hear what you think about the gay marriage law.
I swallowed my beer hard and said “Well, there is no ‘gay marriage law’ actually the law is called the ‘Marriage Equality Act’ and nowhere in the law is the word gay.” Alex stared at me with cold hard eyes and I could hear the bar quieting down.
“With that said, the union between persons of the same sex pursuant to the ‘Marriage Equality Act’ is acknowledged as a ‘civil marriage’.
What that term means is not defined in the law, but it sounds good if you want to marry someone of your own sex.” I then went back to drinking my beer, looking at my phone and the door in five minute intervals. Alex insisted on buying me another drink and asked, “do you believe that gay’s should not be allowed to marry?”

I answered, “I absolutely believe that two human beings who make a commitment to live with each other as life partners in a very close relationship that may or may not include sexual acts of various natures is just fine with me.
The state must protect your rights as individuals regarding property, health and your freedoms that are guaranteed under the Constitution of the United States.” Alise said “RJ, you didn’t answer the question, do you believe we should have the right to marry?”
I stopped drinking as the number of eyeballs upon me multiplied. There was plenty of background noise but more than a couple of other people were paying attention.
I said, “Alise, let me go slow and Alex you also hear me out; there are now many different ‘definitions’ of marriage that boil down to three categories, legal, social and religious. Under the legal definition, I have no problem because it is nearly void of all things to do with God.”
Alex looked at me as if she wanted to rip my heart out but she took my hand and said, “Please, drink your beer, I don’t want it to get warm on you.” I thanked her as she asked me to continue. I said, “many countries have re-defined marriage according to their social customs, social norms, mores and taboos.
But the first marriage was solemnized by God, who created the union as a ‘treaty’ or ‘pact’ between two powers. One having seed and the other having fertile flesh, the unions primary goals were to procreate and possess the land.”

Alex interrupted, “but your talking about a Christian or One God view, other cultures are tolerant of gay relationships.” I retorted, “not exactly, Hindu’s, who have rules for sexual behavior between men outlined in the Kama Sutra do not in any way subjugate the primacy of marriage.
I sincerely believe and want anyone who wants to join in a ‘civil union’ with the same rights and privileges accorded to those in holy matrimony should have those rights. But it is not and never will be ‘Holy Matrimony’”.
Alise said, how can you say that RJ? “Because its true and I have the witness of history, not just religious or biblical history, but the history of civilizations that have found their way to extinction because their military or social needs were greater than, or outstretched their own capacity to feed and defend their own populations.” Alex got closer to me and I got scared, “Are you implying gay marriage will destroy the United States?”
“No!” I exclaimed, “we just need to know what civil marriage is in its context under the Constitution of the State of New York and the Constitution of the United States and how to respect each other and the views that we have without being combative or adversarial.” Karri said, “you mentioned the witness of history, put it in a nutshell for us RJ.” I was starting to shake as Alex held my hand tighter. But I continued quickly and carefully.

I said, “In a nutshell then; homosexuality in ancient Greece was under strict guidelines according to class and power, Greece saw it as a necessity with its Army to make sure men did not leave the ranks to tend fields and raise families.
It is widely known that Alexander the Great had a homosexual relationship with Hephaestion. Alexander’s Generals are also reported to have had homosexual relationships and that Alexander’s Army tolerated and accepted homosexuality.
In both Therevada and Tibetan Buddhism homosexuality is not punished but it is not embraced or practiced as a norm. Although in Therevada Buddhism, Buddhist sacred texts do contain many instances of loving relationships between unmarried men, which some believe to have homoerotic overtones.
Buddhist Monks are to remain celibate and Buddhists that have families are to abstain from sexual misconduct that could include homosexuality, although homosexuality is in the culture.

In Islam, homosexuality is punished, women are locked away and or put to death for lewdness. Men on the other hand are rebuked or punished and upon repentance forgiven. This all depends if one is a Shi’ite or Sunni Muslim.
Today five Islamic countries carry the death penalty for homosexuality, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, and Yemen. But in other Islamic countries such as Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, or Mali, same-sex intercourse is not forbidden by law. However, in Egypt gays have been the victims of laws against "morality".

But here in the United States homosexuality as a life style in the culture has been brought into the mainstream almost exclusively by President Obama who passed Civil Rights Legislation protecting ‘gays’ and ending homosexual discrimination in the US Armed Forces as it should have been long ago.”
Alise had ordered hot wings and chicken tenders while I was on my ‘apologetic for the civil marriage’. Alex and Kerri had been whispering to each other and burst out laughing about something.

“RJ, how do you know all of this?” Alex waited for an answer as Alise locked her eyes on mine. Here we go again I thought, so I answered.
“I served with all four branches of the Armed Forces as a Marine and while serving with the Army I had two female soldiers under my direct command that all but admitted to me that they were gay. Their administration was after them. But while I had them under my direct authority I made it clear that they understand the UCMJ and not commit any violation under the code.”
“So you protected them, didn’t you?” Alise’s question sounded like an accusation from Tomas de Torquemada (Inquisitor General of Spain) himself. “I had enough to deal with in effecting the result of our joint mission than to get mixed up in silly assed Army head hunting, yeah I protected them.” “Would you have protected them if they were men?” Alex had asked this very softly. “No, I would have probably given them the option for an immediate transfer or referral to the Sergeant Major.”
Karri said “so your enlightened tolerance has its civil and social limits RJ. Are you conflicted about this issue?” “No, not at all Karri, I have my belief system that keeps and sustains me, I don’t care if all the world spins out of control or into oblivion. People make choices, others make a life from their choices some make choices from their way of life. If your gay because you were born that way or because you choose to be that way due to events in a life lived, that’s fine with me, just don’t expect my acquiescence.”

Alex, a tall muscular attractive woman, a Latin, Philippine and Norwegian mix, stood up and asked me, “so where exactly are you with gays, how do you feel about me and Alise?”
“Alise said, “yeah, what’s in your culturally conformed Christian heart, condemnation or absolution? Karri looked on with a smile because she knew what was going to come from me so I let loose.
I took Alise by the hand and Alex gave me a crazy look so I took her by the other hand and laid it out, “Voltaire said, ‘I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.’
I take this maxim a little further…I may not agree with how you live, I indeed may despise how you choose to live, but I have and will defend your right to live that way, even to the death. God alone will judge all in the end, as a Christian I have no command to condemn, but to love.”
With that Alex and Alise hugged everybody including me and took off in their 2005 candy apple red Ford Thunderbird. As Karri and I followed I asked her about the symbol around her neck and ‘Pansexuality’.

Karri said, “this is the symbol of a BDSM owner RJ.” “Really, Karri…so what exactly does that mean for us.” Karri said, “RJ you’re a great person, one of the finest souls I know but you’re the kind of guy a girl sticks with forever.”
Karri said when we got in the car, “Sex is something I can have with anyone at anytime but only on my terms, that is they must submit totally to service me on my demand. Sometimes that’s not for months or years, but when I summon them, they must come, submit , service me and endure my discipline. I get off on the exercise of power and force when necessary, but that’s me.” I asked “Is your subject or subjects all female Karri?”
“Are you looking for a position RJ?” As we got to the ferry I wondered how far one way or the other laws can be contorted. What next, can there be civil polygamy based on voluntary BDSM? I think I’ll just go home and watch exploitation movies.
RJ.




